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Grasshopper Kaplan's avatar

Plant based reprogram your genes just like the others makes me feel no better

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Andreas Oehler's avatar

So you try them all to see which one feels better?

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Grasshopper Kaplan's avatar

Zero desire to hackszxxxxinate...

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serafino bueti's avatar

Mix and match! No problemo.

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Andreas Oehler's avatar

What a scientifically deep concept! Gets under my skin every time, better than a Covid jab.

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Tarn - mutual eye-rolling's avatar

Then it's not clear who is culpable.

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Barry O'Kenyan's avatar

They have allowed Novavax - non-mRNA - in Australia now.

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Tarn - mutual eye-rolling's avatar

And in Ardern Archipelago.

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Andreas Oehler's avatar

LOL! Tried to google it before cluing in!

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serafino bueti's avatar

Great! Are you getting it soon? (just kidding, Barry.)

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Barry O'Kenyan's avatar

Depends on what "it" is....!

NEVER!

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Andreas Oehler's avatar

Sure it's safe if we say so? Even safer than the very extremely safest one right before it. And definitely does not contain any stinking mRNA. Trust us! We have your best interest in mind. AND the greater good.

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Barry O'Kenyan's avatar

Andreas, you are an excellent salesman. But, you can't sell me squat!

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Andreas Oehler's avatar

At least my conscience is clear that I tried LOL!

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Cheeps's avatar

👌🏻😉

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Tarn - mutual eye-rolling's avatar

Easier to get it in than a tennis ball over the net.

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Barry O'Kenyan's avatar

Very droll.

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Steve's avatar

Funny how it's safe to mix with the others based on...oh right zero data because the study that that mixing is taking place in hasn't started using novavax yet...

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Andreas Oehler's avatar

Maybe they mean that when they mix it in a bowl, it doesn't catch fire?

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Steve's avatar

I'm pretty confident that's the case so maybe 🤣

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LoveOneAnother's avatar

Yay we can do needle tracks with a jabmix! Why should teens have all the fun?

"Teens gather to have a “pharm party”—also sometimes referred to as “Skittles parties”—where they each bring prescription drugs and contribute to a mixture of pills thrown into a bowl. These bowls and baggies of random pills mixed together are often referred to as “trail mix.” Teenagers pass around the bowl and each person takes a handful of the drugs to get high."

https://projectknow.com/drug-addiction/party-culture/

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Jeff C's avatar

“Dr. Henry said it is safe to mix and match Novavax with other shots, so those who received something else for their first dose and had concerns or side effects can use the new option as their second dose.”

I have no idea who Dr. Henry is (probably some BC Health flunky) but how in the hell can he say something like this? At best, it's not obviously unsafe, but how can he categorically state it's "safe"? He has no idea if this is true or not, he's either lying or parroting what someone told him. There have been virtually no studies on mixing and matching these shots.

These people have no shame and are downright evil. I'm so thankful I believe in a God who punishes the wicked or I'd probably lose my mind.

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Jeff C's avatar

Also wondering about those who are already manufacturing spikes from the an earlier mRNA shot, then suddenly they get hit with a blast of spikes coupled with the adjuvant from the Novavax. Does that worry anyone? Adjuvants such as aluminum and squalene are very non-discriminant and it's hard to predict how an individual's immune system will react. Supposedly Novavax uses something secret called Matrix-M, who knows how it works or what's in it.

If my cells are already acting a little spike factories the last thing I want is to goose my immune system to indiscriminately go on the attack. These people are playing with fire.

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Andreas Oehler's avatar

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/296193426_Matrix-M_adjuvant_enhances_antibody_cellular_and_protective_immune_responses_of_a_Zaire_EbolaMakona_virus_glycoprotein_GP_nanoparticle_vaccine_in_mice

You are right - not elucidated!

Matrix-MTM, an adjuvant based on saponin extracted from theQuillaja saponaria Molina tree induces high and long-lasting levelsof broadly reacting antibodies supported by a balanced TH1 andTH2 type of response, including biologically active antibody iso-types such as murine IgG2a, multifunctional T cells and cytotoxicT lymphocytes [3–10]. The mode-of-action of Matrix-M adjuvanthas not been elucidated in detail; however, the adjuvant promotes rapid and profound effects on cellular drainage to local lymph nodescreating a milieu of activated cells including T cells, B cells, NaturalKiller cells, neutrophils, monocytes and dendritic cells

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Jeff C's avatar

Anecdotal but several years back my wife cut her finger and the ER doc recommended a tetanus shot. She got it but she also happened to have a small bug bite on her leg at the same time. Within six hours the bug bite had swelled up to the size of a lemon.

We concluded that it was caused by the aluminum adjuvant in the shot (and her physician agreed). There is nothing specific about aluminum, it just generally triggers a massive immune response. The idea is that the response is aimed toward the antigen in the shot, but there is nothing to prevent it from being aimed at other antigens if they happen to be present.

In my wife's case there was likely some residual foreign protein in the bug bite so the adjuvant triggered an unnecessary massive inflammatory overreaction at the bug bite which had been going away on its own. Now imagine if the cells all over the body are still churning out spikes from a previous mRNA shot, and suddenly the immune system gets blasted with Matrix-M.

As Andreas link says, Matrix-M causes "a milieu of activated cells including T cells, B cells, NaturalKiller cells, neutrophils, monocytes and dendritic cells". In other words, a completely indiscriminate amped-up immune system ready to attack anything that looks unusual. Sounds like a recipe for autoimmunity to me.

This is all supposition but it is plausible, and as far as I can tell it was never studied. Yet we are assured it is "safe" to mix and match.

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LoveOneAnother's avatar

So we pump people full of adjuvants over their lifetimes and then we wonder why some people have over active immune responses and cytokine storms.

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Kirsten's avatar

Here's my new life long hand gesture at any vaccine, and the pharma Corp that makes it🖕

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Andreas's avatar

+1.

The trust has been totally decimated. Medical professionals. Pharma. Regulators. Politicians. MSM. We need trials, real ones. And fitting punishments. Perhaps a 'Russian Roulette' MRNA Booster every quarter for life? It is good enough for us.

They never deserved the trust, and after these crimes they cannot be redeemed. We've seen their true colours, and we need to remember so we can remove them from office when the time comes.

Then we can see about those trials. Public, for all to see. Punishments, too. No redactions.

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Kirsten's avatar

I totally agree. These are crimes against humanity, and justice will hopefully be served.

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YYR's avatar

It's still mRNA, as I recall.

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Ray's avatar

It contains the spike protein of the coronavirus itself, but formulated as a nanoparticle, so nice and toxic

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UM Ross's avatar

No, it's not. It gives you a dose of the toxic spike protein directly rather than using the mRNA parlor trick of getting your own cells to produce it.

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Andreas Oehler's avatar

Or so they say... They wouldn't lie to you, would they?

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Canny Granny's avatar

On the Novavax website, they say the spike proteins are “perfectly folded!” But what if they are not? They also use moth something to grow the spike (I think) and some kind of tree bark for something else. Please excuse my scientific terms. Lol Also, it’s been about 6 months since I read about it, so I’m just going on memory. I’m just a granny, not a scientist. The perfectly folded proteins caught my non-scientist attention, though. How do you perfectly fold proteins? I have trouble with towels.

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Andreas Oehler's avatar

Did they say what they mean "perfectly folded"? As opposed to the virus ones that have some creases?

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Canny Granny's avatar

Not that I remember! This info seemed to be for non-scientists because it was a fairly simple description of the process. I knew that misfolded proteins can cause prion disease and I had read that LNP were used to cross BBB so it made me think a bit.

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Canny Granny's avatar

I haven’t checked the site recently, so I don’t know if it’s still there or if info has changed.

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HiggsBosonSlut's avatar

It's probably a prion (not so perfectly folded), so you can look forward to increases in "Alzheimer's" or Creutzfeld-Jakob disease. But don't worry, Pfzier will have a drug for that!

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Tarn - mutual eye-rolling's avatar

Perfectly folded should mean no in creases.

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Cheeps's avatar

Bingo! 🤯

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LoveOneAnother's avatar

Not an expert either, but I think protein folding is related to chirality (orientation) of the amino acids. Chirality is important because one orientation is life and the other is death.

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Canny Granny's avatar

So if the amino acids are not positioned correctly in the protein, that is misfolding? Does that mean the amino acids aren’t in the proper sequence, or they attached to each other in the wrong places or out of alignment some other way?

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Andreas Oehler's avatar

It's like twisting a magnetic rope. Amino acids are all there, but you can bend the rope this way or that way and then stick magnetically different sections of it, resulting in various constructs, depending on how you bend and stick. So, when the protein is translated from mRNA, it is also twisted in a prearranged way, under normal conditions. But with the throughput-"optimized" nucleotides and pseudouridine-stabilized mRNA, the rope bends in wrong ways as it is produced, and you get a weird blob instead of a well-folded protein.

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Cheeps's avatar

Is it too personal to ask, Andreas, if you've received any of the various vaccines?

I'm relishing benefiting from your excellent research skills. Thanks for all you do.

Throwing this in just for fun! (This site is a buffet of late-breaking insights and news developments. The Health category is loaded with "Easter eggs"...)

https://ugetube.com/watch/vaccine-math_jc8kCmea5BQwrvF.html

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Andreas Oehler's avatar

And what do you think?

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Cheeps's avatar

I already spilled at indiscreet length on Igor's page, to someone defending Pfzrs participant instructions regarding pregnant women, ala avoiding contact. He suggested the cautionary instructions were par for the course, due to how much they still don't know about such a "new vaccine".

Allow me to put it this way:

Operation Warp Speed?

🤣

Documents verify they've been around for much longer than a year.

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Andreas Oehler's avatar

nice video, good questions...

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John Day MD's avatar

We had Delta for Christmas/New-Year, took ivermectin-based treatment, and have decided to remain in the unvaccinated-control group.

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DavidC's avatar

This reminds me of "The Day of the Triffids!"

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Cheeps's avatar

More like the "Island of Dr. Moreau" meets "Cell", with some "Stepford Wives" thrown in for vax-compliant measure!

Pending further evaluation of the cited mutations and related test results, I withhold "Children of Men".

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Andreas Oehler's avatar

Wow!

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Cheeps's avatar

🤷🏻‍♀️

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