Thank you for posting. Add India and also some countries in Africa that have relied on natural immunity towards herd immunity for an even broader picture.
Yes!! One would question a great many things when seeing the planetary stats for this. Africa comes out far better than expected given income and access to medicine.
I just know how you dislike complicating things. As I’m sure you know, Covid-19 mortality is strongly linked to age. Most African countries have young populations, with few people over the age of 65 compared to the western European countries you listed. India have slightly older copulation, but still much younger than those listed (South Africa: 5.5%, Morocco: <5%, Egypt: 5.5%, as compared to the USA: 16.3%, Canada: 16.5% etc. - you get the picture). In terms of Covid - age is a huge minus.
I've added those by popular demand, and the picture became exceedingly pretty. But feel free to exclude Africa and India, through the flexing of your mental muscle. The countries left are much more homogeneous, in terms of populations. And yet...
unless you start "vaccinating" the young to make them as good as old, in terms of the innate immunity? What about the lack of masks, sanitation, health services, shortage of jabs or censorship? Wait, these turn out to be pluses as well!
And yet, the USA and Canada still have better data than even the most developed country in Africa. No one expect exact data (except, maybe, for the Germans...).
Lots of African countries (especially sub-Saharan countries, except for South African and Namibia) don't even have reliable demographic/census data, so things that we take for granted in the developed world (% vaccinated, excess deaths etc.) are unrealistic in that region. How can you know how many people are dying, if you don't know how many people are alive?
There are extant variations of the slogan, one being "Correlation is not evidence of causation."
Whatever the Variant it is mostly used by corporate controlled Modern Medicine to dismiss evidence of harms its 'remedies' are doing, and especially, to dismiss claims of the efficacies of any non-mainstream remedies...
My preference is "Correlation suggests causation." - as it indicates Doubt, which is not easily ignored as is the definiteness (Authoritativeness) of the "does not prove" slogan...
As the first month of 2022 gathered pace as we moved towards the third calendar year of the fake pandemic, the determined stonewall of mainstream conversation was occasionally infringed upon by mutterings from the periphery of just about every Western country of a continuing die-off arising from the Covid vaccines. American insurance companies were talking of an unprecedented 40 per cent increase in life assurance claims; in Ireland, the national online death-notice site, RIP.ie, was showing an excess in mortality — in the Republic alone — equivalent to that suffered by the whole island in 30 years of the Troubles, and this for the single year of 2021. The same kind of pattern was whispered about by ‘conspiracy theorists’ in multiple European countries.
But nothing of this leached into the mainstream, where there was a continued push for mandatory vaccines, vaccination of children and penalties for citizens and parents who demurred.
A particular phenomenon was especially hard to ignore. All over the world, sporting events were being interrupted by the sudden collapse — sometimes fatal collapse — of athletes — footballers, tennis players, swimmers and so on — who had been at the top of their professional form. Yet, the mainstream contrived mainly to ignore this also, or sometimes to refer to it as something that happened every day. This became an online meme: the everydayness of sudden death among athletes, the only advance warning for which was to be among the fittest of the fit.
Please explain. It looks to me like Italy has a higher rate of booster acceptance than the UK but the UK has significantly higher mortality? What's going on in the UK?
Cardiovascular disease incidence is higher in the UK than in Italy, which is the highest cause of deaths overall worldwide. I expect there are some other significant contributing factors, but this puts the UK higher as a baseline.
That is certainly another factor which makes analysis more difficult. Deaths in any region will wax and wane. In addition, at any given time there may be more critically ill people in one country than in another which may or may not correspond with a recent round of quackcination and follow on deaths.
It depends on what one wants to draw attention to. Sometimes focus on the trees will be more effective, sometimes the forest. No matter which way one wants to go, in my view quackcines are of no benefit whatsoever unless the goal is not health.
My guess,I live in UK….Our doctors are mostly employed by our NHS once the pride of our country….Now the worse Cancer survival in Europe ( although we are no longer in EU )plus many more problems…
NO TREATMENT FOR COVID, (STILL) Except Vax and New unproven drugs,from US. COMPLETE CENSORSHIP OF MEDIA, LOW VIT D?UK less Sun.Poor Diet? Italy has Med Diet.Aged population? My niece is a GP and had her 6 year old daughter vaxed,pic on Facebook ,she genuinely doesn’t know about the problems and thinks I am spreading misinformation ,even thoughI am unfortunately 3 times vaxed.( found here too late !)
Covid is rife at present in UK 1 in 17 people have Covid ( this week Zoe Study)UKGov isn’t interested in ‘’cases con’’ any more but Zoe app is independent of Gov…..
Yesterday my dentist receptionist (immuno compromised) said her 9year old son was to be vaxed to protect her!Itried to warn her but she said she had never read anything that said the vaccines were dangerous!!
Wow. What a mess. Has your dentist receptionist seen that people who have been vaxxed are getting covid, so how does having a child vaxxed protect her? And hasn't she seen young sports people falling over with cardiac arrest?
As I explained,TOTAL MEDIA CENSORSHIP……When the doctors and nurses were demonstrating OUTSIDE the BBC HQ,against vax mandates..Thousands folding their uniforms and placing them on the pavement( behind barriers with several hundred police standing on patrol…The BBC reported this as a few anti vaxers demonstrating..
The only way the GOV Conceded was because of a Doctors LEGAL CROWD FUNDED APPEAL…The only way I know what is happening is because of Telegram and Substack authors.The UK Gov is still lying every day about Covid,they don’t want the truth to come out…also in the opinion of experts much more knowledgeable than me,as part of DigitalCurrency and Total ID Control through WHO Pandemic Preparedness Treaty.
I agree, it is not as simple as more quackcination = higher mortality. What would be a better comparison is number of comorbidities graphed against quackcination. Quackcination is only one of many causes of ill health.
The real pandemic is NCDs (non communicable diseases) which cannot be cured with a magic shot.
The scary thing is it seems like some of those NCDs are accelerated or even triggered by the magic juice. The next few years are shaping up to be quite sad
Agreed. Injecting the chronically ill with toxins is not a recipe for health. What is sad is that pharmaceuticals tend to suppress symptoms, which leads to the conclusion the issue has been dealt with, while the cause likely remains. Millions depend on these meds as that is what their doctor has given them, and they don't seek advice beyond that.
I would like to see the science Bill Gates uses to justify his characterization of the quackcines as a miracle. Perhaps due to the suppression of symptoms he claims they work, and then later when the body starts to recover and symptoms reappear, it is just time for a booster, so he avoids the issue of their failure.
You can if you want to make a point and don't want to deal with those pesky 'facts'. 'Facts' just make things complicated, and we know how everyone likes things nice and simple (especially if it's not).
Why deal with issues of lack of testing, lack of data, age of population, lack of treatment etc. if you already have your conclusion is?
It’s deaths, David. Testing for these can be done by amateurs, n’est-ce pas? And the lack of treatment should have been an aggravating factor? I know, I know. Likely they didn’t wear masks either. In that climate. I wouldn’t.
You know everything. And yet, for some reason, you accept the data published by many countries in Africa and India.
I guess you don't want to mess up your nice, clean graphs. Who want footnotes dealing with the quality of data, differences in demographics etc.? Why spend time correcting for known and unknown factors, when it would only confuse people?
In fact, Professor Michael Levitt of Stanford in 2021 asked if anyone could provide him data showing mere correlations between NPIs and reduction in cases. None could!
Thank you for posting. Add India and also some countries in Africa that have relied on natural immunity towards herd immunity for an even broader picture.
Yes!! One would question a great many things when seeing the planetary stats for this. Africa comes out far better than expected given income and access to medicine.
Good idea! Updated.
Kim Iversen maps it out here, although it may be a little dated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNc9PqIZ31M
How does it come out if you factor in age?
Africa is the last large area showing us what could have been if our health bodies didn't serve the Devil.
That is an optimistic way to look at it.
Why only age? There are both pluses and minuses, as always.
I just know how you dislike complicating things. As I’m sure you know, Covid-19 mortality is strongly linked to age. Most African countries have young populations, with few people over the age of 65 compared to the western European countries you listed. India have slightly older copulation, but still much younger than those listed (South Africa: 5.5%, Morocco: <5%, Egypt: 5.5%, as compared to the USA: 16.3%, Canada: 16.5% etc. - you get the picture). In terms of Covid - age is a huge minus.
I've added those by popular demand, and the picture became exceedingly pretty. But feel free to exclude Africa and India, through the flexing of your mental muscle. The countries left are much more homogeneous, in terms of populations. And yet...
unless you start "vaccinating" the young to make them as good as old, in terms of the innate immunity? What about the lack of masks, sanitation, health services, shortage of jabs or censorship? Wait, these turn out to be pluses as well!
That's why you're the expert...
India and Africa proved that if you don't test for something, you won't find anything.
Canada doesn't test for Covid any longer, for months. You know who does? China! Look how well that worked for them.
Also, Canada doesn't have the exact census data either. Neither does USA. Maybe Germany does, being Germany.
And yet, the USA and Canada still have better data than even the most developed country in Africa. No one expect exact data (except, maybe, for the Germans...).
Isn’t it a racist statement? Care to go into substantiated, verifiable, nuanced details, on a country-by-country basis?
Isn't what a racist statement?
You don't even notice it!
That's a good point. Maybe just looking at overall deaths / dosages administered ? (Note: I'm writing this before coffee, so keep that in mind)
Lots of African countries (especially sub-Saharan countries, except for South African and Namibia) don't even have reliable demographic/census data, so things that we take for granted in the developed world (% vaccinated, excess deaths etc.) are unrealistic in that region. How can you know how many people are dying, if you don't know how many people are alive?
India as well?
There are extant variations of the slogan, one being "Correlation is not evidence of causation."
Whatever the Variant it is mostly used by corporate controlled Modern Medicine to dismiss evidence of harms its 'remedies' are doing, and especially, to dismiss claims of the efficacies of any non-mainstream remedies...
My preference is "Correlation suggests causation." - as it indicates Doubt, which is not easily ignored as is the definiteness (Authoritativeness) of the "does not prove" slogan...
I should go perhaps for "reiterated correlation" ...
Some powerful insights into how this can happen:
Life as Trance (Understanding CovIDIOCY)
As the first month of 2022 gathered pace as we moved towards the third calendar year of the fake pandemic, the determined stonewall of mainstream conversation was occasionally infringed upon by mutterings from the periphery of just about every Western country of a continuing die-off arising from the Covid vaccines. American insurance companies were talking of an unprecedented 40 per cent increase in life assurance claims; in Ireland, the national online death-notice site, RIP.ie, was showing an excess in mortality — in the Republic alone — equivalent to that suffered by the whole island in 30 years of the Troubles, and this for the single year of 2021. The same kind of pattern was whispered about by ‘conspiracy theorists’ in multiple European countries.
But nothing of this leached into the mainstream, where there was a continued push for mandatory vaccines, vaccination of children and penalties for citizens and parents who demurred.
A particular phenomenon was especially hard to ignore. All over the world, sporting events were being interrupted by the sudden collapse — sometimes fatal collapse — of athletes — footballers, tennis players, swimmers and so on — who had been at the top of their professional form. Yet, the mainstream contrived mainly to ignore this also, or sometimes to refer to it as something that happened every day. This became an online meme: the everydayness of sudden death among athletes, the only advance warning for which was to be among the fittest of the fit.
https://johnwaters.substack.com/p/whipnosis-part-1-of-3?s=r
Please explain. It looks to me like Italy has a higher rate of booster acceptance than the UK but the UK has significantly higher mortality? What's going on in the UK?
Cardiovascular disease incidence is higher in the UK than in Italy, which is the highest cause of deaths overall worldwide. I expect there are some other significant contributing factors, but this puts the UK higher as a baseline.
Or - maybe Italy sacrificed their elderly in the first wave.
That is certainly another factor which makes analysis more difficult. Deaths in any region will wax and wane. In addition, at any given time there may be more critically ill people in one country than in another which may or may not correspond with a recent round of quackcination and follow on deaths.
Therefore, the general picture is better than nitpicking? In seeing the forest for the trees.
A companion standby, used to dismiss evidence that a non-mainstream remedy works is, "there are too many variables"
And so you would rather ignore them? If you close your eyes, they don't go away.
It depends on what one wants to draw attention to. Sometimes focus on the trees will be more effective, sometimes the forest. No matter which way one wants to go, in my view quackcines are of no benefit whatsoever unless the goal is not health.
And there you have it?
England was just as successful bombing their old-people´s homes with midazolam. In general, Italians probably have better diet and nutrition.
My guess,I live in UK….Our doctors are mostly employed by our NHS once the pride of our country….Now the worse Cancer survival in Europe ( although we are no longer in EU )plus many more problems…
NO TREATMENT FOR COVID, (STILL) Except Vax and New unproven drugs,from US. COMPLETE CENSORSHIP OF MEDIA, LOW VIT D?UK less Sun.Poor Diet? Italy has Med Diet.Aged population? My niece is a GP and had her 6 year old daughter vaxed,pic on Facebook ,she genuinely doesn’t know about the problems and thinks I am spreading misinformation ,even thoughI am unfortunately 3 times vaxed.( found here too late !)
Covid is rife at present in UK 1 in 17 people have Covid ( this week Zoe Study)UKGov isn’t interested in ‘’cases con’’ any more but Zoe app is independent of Gov…..
Yesterday my dentist receptionist (immuno compromised) said her 9year old son was to be vaxed to protect her!Itried to warn her but she said she had never read anything that said the vaccines were dangerous!!
Wow. What a mess. Has your dentist receptionist seen that people who have been vaxxed are getting covid, so how does having a child vaxxed protect her? And hasn't she seen young sports people falling over with cardiac arrest?
As I explained,TOTAL MEDIA CENSORSHIP……When the doctors and nurses were demonstrating OUTSIDE the BBC HQ,against vax mandates..Thousands folding their uniforms and placing them on the pavement( behind barriers with several hundred police standing on patrol…The BBC reported this as a few anti vaxers demonstrating..
The only way the GOV Conceded was because of a Doctors LEGAL CROWD FUNDED APPEAL…The only way I know what is happening is because of Telegram and Substack authors.The UK Gov is still lying every day about Covid,they don’t want the truth to come out…also in the opinion of experts much more knowledgeable than me,as part of DigitalCurrency and Total ID Control through WHO Pandemic Preparedness Treaty.
I'm shaking my head....
I'm guessing that's where demographics, data collection methods and relative health of the different populations comes in.
I agree, it is not as simple as more quackcination = higher mortality. What would be a better comparison is number of comorbidities graphed against quackcination. Quackcination is only one of many causes of ill health.
The real pandemic is NCDs (non communicable diseases) which cannot be cured with a magic shot.
The scary thing is it seems like some of those NCDs are accelerated or even triggered by the magic juice. The next few years are shaping up to be quite sad
Agreed. Injecting the chronically ill with toxins is not a recipe for health. What is sad is that pharmaceuticals tend to suppress symptoms, which leads to the conclusion the issue has been dealt with, while the cause likely remains. Millions depend on these meds as that is what their doctor has given them, and they don't seek advice beyond that.
I would like to see the science Bill Gates uses to justify his characterization of the quackcines as a miracle. Perhaps due to the suppression of symptoms he claims they work, and then later when the body starts to recover and symptoms reappear, it is just time for a booster, so he avoids the issue of their failure.
Bill Gates: The vaccines are a miracle. https://youtu.be/VOgVcFv_tWs?t=50
What are African countries? You can't lump those countries into one continent called Africa
Yeah, it’s racist.
You can if you want to make a point and don't want to deal with those pesky 'facts'. 'Facts' just make things complicated, and we know how everyone likes things nice and simple (especially if it's not).
Why deal with issues of lack of testing, lack of data, age of population, lack of treatment etc. if you already have your conclusion is?
It’s deaths, David. Testing for these can be done by amateurs, n’est-ce pas? And the lack of treatment should have been an aggravating factor? I know, I know. Likely they didn’t wear masks either. In that climate. I wouldn’t.
You know everything. And yet, for some reason, you accept the data published by many countries in Africa and India.
I guess you don't want to mess up your nice, clean graphs. Who want footnotes dealing with the quality of data, differences in demographics etc.? Why spend time correcting for known and unknown factors, when it would only confuse people?
Sure I don't - they are beautiful as it is.
Yes they are.
I would never tell you to let the messiness of the real world, get in the way of your art...
Countries in India? Yeah, sure - it's a sub-continent, after all. My bad.
In fact, Professor Michael Levitt of Stanford in 2021 asked if anyone could provide him data showing mere correlations between NPIs and reduction in cases. None could!
The lack of correlation does not disprove causation?
Correlation is racist and bigoted!
(In 2021 the NSW CHO had the cheek to insist that they knew without having to look at any data re faccine efficacy!)
The famed gut feeling! Nothing beats that, if mastered properly!
Who needs data, when you have feeling?
And you have a splendid gut,may I say 😊👏🏻
As is math in general. Reading too.
And writing..
I can't help but remember Levitt telling us all that this whole thing would be over 2 years ago...