I know 3 people during the last 3-4 months who have had COVID (as per the quick test). All were vaccinated.
I don't know a single person who has died from COVID.
I know of one very serious confirmed vaccine injury, one potential vaccine injury (a 53 year old woman who came down with ALS out of the blue and is dying), and one probable death post-vaccination.
I also know/knew two individuals in their late 80s who were unvaxed and experienced a very mild case of COVID back in 2020.
Wife and I have had COVID twice, both times recovered in less than 24 hours thanks to IVM and HXC. We are unvaccinated.
But if you talk to my sister, for example, she apparently knows every person under 30 years old east of the Mississippi who has died from COVID. One of my former editors recalls (fondly, I suspect) "bodies piled up on the sidewalks outside NY City hospitals." Yes the NYC hospitals had so many bodies they could no longer fit them into their morgues, empty rooms (oh I forgot, there were no empty rooms), corridors, rooftops, or storage areas. The bodies were (LITERALLY!!!) falling out of the windows onto York Avenue.
my best friend walked to columbia presbyterian in NYC on march 17, 2020, tested positive for covid and was slapped on a vent that night. her body was taken off the vent 2 weeks later and tossed on a freezer truck to await an unattended burial. she had a fibrotic lung condition and had oxygen tanks at home. i believe she would have lived if she had only stayed home and used her oxygen if she felt she was getting in trouble.
my brother lives in astoria across the street from an urgent care place. there were freezer trucks parked outside to store the bodies.
but none of these people died of covid. they died of bad protocols that defied centuries of common practice with respiratory viruses.
another friend got covid really bad, was on a vent for over 40 days. finally in desperation, his hospital asked the FDA for a compassionate use waiver to try an experimental israeli stem cell preparation. within days, he was weaned off the vent, clapped out of the hospital and sent to a rehab facility where he did very well and was discharged to his wife and children in under a week.
there were television news interviews and newspaper accounts. everyone assumed the FDA would open the research to more critically ill patients with nothing to lose. amazingly, the treatment disappeared without a trace and he is the ONLY person in the USA that it was tried on which seems sinister to me.
Carolyn, sorry about your best friend. :-( BTW, the whole "freezer trucks" thing was just another if their stunts. The real reason that they had to use the trucks was because they closed down all the funeral homes.
I never in my life remember anybody who had a cold in summer in humid Florida where I live now. I used to get colds in dry Nevada in winter...but never go a cold in summer in Florida in winter years and never met anybody with summer colds in Florida till now! Too strange. And they sound bad like rattling voice etc..
artificial pharmaceutical "health" causes actual sickness.
i have friends, a married couple, who volunteered for the moderna trial. it was unblinded after 2 months (!) and the wife, who had received the placebo, was then vaccinated. the husband, as soon as he was able, ran out and got himself two pfizer shots and was hankering for a booster. i hope i talked him out of it!
the wife and her unvaccinated childhood friend stayed at out house for a few days over the summer and then went on with their travels. they both got delta- bad. the wife called me for advice and i gave her a list of supplements to take. the unvaccinated friend was also uninsured and lived alone on a hobby farm. i advised her (she fought me on this) to get the "horse paste" from her barn and we worked out a safe dose. she was desperately ill and in wrenching pain so she overcame her resistance and took a first dose. she slept through the night for the first time in 5 days and was better the next morning. now she stockpiles it.
the moderna couple stayed with us again for new years, bringing their son and daughter in law who came from london. they all came down with covid.
i finally got covid last summer from a vaccinated and boosted friend who came over on a friday morning to use my sauna as she was sick but not tested although obviously she had covid (as a footnote, she now has cancer). on monday i woke with a slight fever, body aches and a fierce headache and immediately upped my once a week preventative dose of IVM to a therapeutic level. i tested on tuesday (positive for covid by rapid antigen) and was back to normal on wednesday- a real nothing burger.
my boyfriend started to feel bad on wednesday and tested positive. he never had a fever but did have an awful sore throat which i treated with hourly nebulizing of a 3% saline/H2O2 solution alternating with iodine and colloidal silver. he was better in 3 days.
i have known 2 people to die of the vaccine and my best friend died on april 1, 2020, not of covid but of bad NYC hospital protocols.
since being fired from my job of 40 years for not getting vaccinated, my circle of vaccinated acquaintances is pretty small
My wife works in a elementary school. All staff jabbed with the exception of her and 2 others.
I hear constantly from her (during school season) about teachers having never ending sicknesses, barely back a few days before home sick again. Most mask up when they come back, exacerbating the issue of course.
Meanwhile, her and the couple other non jabbers (all educational assistants, the ones the kids sneeze on at least hourly, and come to for hugs etc) have not missed a single day for illness of any kind.
Even worse, several teachers and staff are experiencing other issues as well, seeming nerve issues, often in feet and lower legs, recurrances of cancer, etc.
I have a niece who is in primary school - she's been booking loads of days off sick --- I asked her (when the Mega Vax Parents weren't around) if lots of other kids are sick ... yes she said - every day lots are missing from class -- lots.. do you mean more than half... uh no not that many days the teacher says -- we have so many away today that we'll have to delay starting on that new topic till they return....
One fit 45 yr old was telling me he was sick for nearly 3 weeks - thought he was coming out of it then BAM - it smashed him so hard for a few days he thought he was gonna die...
He was ok for a few weeks but was again not feeling well when I spoke to him.
One other person I know has been sick for over 2 months straight now...
All the workers at my partner's workplace (mechanical engineering, most in the 40s/50s, not particularly healthy anyway) have colds that are going on for weeks. One, in his 60s, seems to have a perma-cold. All on the jabbing band wagon. Partner was stupid enough to get jabbed once and his cold is lingering. UK so height of summer (although little sign of it!) Summer colds have always been a thing, but these do seem to be long lived. Turbo cancer also seems to be a thing I'm hearing of now too (my uncle has just died, partner's cousin recently diagnosed with stage 4 jaw cancer which has spread, niece has suspected thyroid cancer (she's 23, fit and healthy but fully paid up member of cult Covid, local school dad, no health problems, 40s, died in his sleep, 50 year old female acquaintance suffered profuse rectal bleeding now diagnosed with bowel cancer, another local just died of cancer that was treatable until it wasn't) This is all new. It didn't happen before.
In Canada here. I work in an office of about 15 people. I’m the only unjabbed. Everyone got 2 shots in 2021 and some have 1 or more boosters. Since fall of 2021 multiple people get sick every month regardless of the season. From fall to May/June just about everyone is sick with covid/flu/respiratory virus every single month without fail. These are often multi day absences each month! I’ve worked here for 16 years and prior to 2021 (even in 2020) each person would only be sick once or twice during fall/winter and rarely in summer. This is a new occurrence since the jabs. Also the amount of absences for headaches or coworkers taking Advil during the weekday is almost daily (multiple people). My boss got the bivalent booster last November. A week later he was so I’ll he missed an entire week of work! Again never seen this before here. Also multiple coworkers have a constant small cough. I can hear them every few minutes coaching or interrupting their speech with a cough. I’m so worried it could be turbo lung cancer. I should mention I haven’t taken a sick day since 2020 and haven’t been sick. I think I got covid in 2022 spring as I lost my sense of smell and my voice changed but that was it. Also have learned of a few heart issues in coworkers or their family that came suddenly and they were perfectly fine before according to them. A few cancers too in coworkers family. How much is jab and how much is not I don’t know but I’m certain the cknstant respiratory sickness and low key coughs and headaches is all from jab :(
Does this count ? Woman drove through our front garden at @2PM with an SUV - took out a fence , tree, and blocked the driveway for the entrance into our neighbour's home . Partner in the car , reported she felt as if she was having a heart attack ( she was in shock and could not speak English) and mentioned she had had a vaccine that AM from her doctor . I was on that ASAP - and asked what one - he didn't know . I suggested he call the Dr to mention she had an accident that could have resulted in a number of deaths since the time frame was the same day . mentioned to the police man - she had a "vaccine" that morning . he said she was probably just anxious and vaccines don't do that ! Needless to say , he didn't know he was dealing with a honey badger.
#2 Few days later walking to a little green grocery store , there is a beautiful young woman , laying on her side, with all the police, ambulances, and firemen milling around ; her face was in a contorted paralysis - could assume a stroke of sorts ( was a nurse for 20 years ) but don't know for sure . First time in 40 years seeing this on the streets where I live .
#3 - Is there an epidemic of celiac disease in kids and families? Hearing whole families being tested and diagnosed with this one - but they say it is/was in the family anyway. I usually ask - what have you been doing differently over the past few years ? The deer in the headlight look is another epidemic as far as I can tell.
Since everyone around me at is least double vaxxed, I have plenty of people to choose from. Out of say 25 or so people who I know in general, at least 5 seem to be doing badly, are chronically ill. 2 have gained alot of weight, to the point of it causing their bodies difficulty getting around, and are using canes. 2 are elders who seem to be confused and not remembering conversations to an extreme level of forgetfulness, very bad short term memory. The 5th is a person who has chronic fatigue and is being treated by an acupuncturist for 'long Covid'. Thats 20% of people in a small group of 25. In general I see more canes and walkers in the general populace and more stories of people who were working into their later 60's, but have had bodily failings of late that put them out of the work force.
Oh heck yeah, all the jabbed are continually sick with something or other. I haven't noted it as much lately, but it was extremely noticeable last winter.
A friend recently told me that before the "pandemic", they didn't get sick as often. He and his wife, both jabbed, and three small kids (don't know jab status) are constantly ill with either respiratory or stomach bugs. I didn't have the heart to tell him why.
Found a collapsedcman in 70s, furthermore a repairshop guy super sick with respiratory illness in middle of summer...and I don't meet many people. Another one had shingles etc
I was just talking to a co-worker last week and she told me that she has had a cold for at least six weeks straight. I told her to start taking Vitamin D and I even sent her some medical papers noting Vitamin D’s effectiveness against respiratory viruses. I saw her yesterday and she appeared okay, but I did not ask about the persistent cold. I do not know her vaccination status for sure, but we had a vaccine requirement in the past and I live in a heavily blue Covidian stronghold. I think it is highly like that she has had at least the primary series and one booster, but possibly multiple boosters.
I work in a fully vaxed group home. The house manager was fully vaxed as of 12/2021. She got infected 1/14/2022 and was off 5 days, minor symptoms cold like. She infected 2 residents who had to get monoclonal antibody. She has since been infected 2 other times since and both times, the symptoms were worse. The last time was 2/2023, she was off12 days and hospitalized. Myself and other workers remain unvaxed and just fine although I have developed weird symptoms a few times that lasted 5-6 days and then gone. I kept windows open in 2022 due to the shedding and it is real. No problems this past winter but I'm watching one residents deteriorate slowly physically and mentally. Before the shot, he was fine and jolly but this past Spring he was diagnosed with AFib along with another resident. My BFF who got her 2 shots in 2/2021 also this past Spring has been diagnosed with AFib. Her vaxed daughter developed a carcinoma on the bottom of her foot and it was malignant. She had it removed last winter and it's growing back. I've lost many friends since 10/2021, people age 30-80 years old, all vaxed and died from clots, heart attacks, aggressive cancers post vaccination
I know upwards of a dozen people with serious vaccine injuries... mainly heart issues - one stroke - one neuro disease (terminal - now in a wheelchair) -- two blood clots ...
These occurred soon after their jabs... I have not heard of anyone experiencing a vax injury in quite a few months now.
What I am hearing from a sports league I am involved in is endless widespread respiratory illnesses... often severe enough to result in multiple days off work with bed rest... the number of times I have heard 'I have never been so ill'....
I also have a mate who runs a business with 40+ staff... constant sickness -- and he mentioned the other day 'it's always the vaxxed ones'
Just off the phone with a tradie ... he's off today 'head cold' but says he can come by to quote on some work... it's just a cold he thinks not covid --- do I mind? Nah - I don't care about any of that... just let me know what time works for you -- I'm here all day spewing doom all over SS so will be available....
My wife and I did not get the shots and we have not had a respiratory infection since she had COVID in late 2019 through early 2020 (likely, no test back then). Nearly all of our friends and family got the shots and most have had COVID or another respiratory infection more times than they can remember. In 2021 and 2022, many of the ones who got the cure, developed COVID 3 or 4 times, even 5 times. In my opinion, they got ill with COVID after each shot.
I know 3 people during the last 3-4 months who have had COVID (as per the quick test). All were vaccinated.
I don't know a single person who has died from COVID.
I know of one very serious confirmed vaccine injury, one potential vaccine injury (a 53 year old woman who came down with ALS out of the blue and is dying), and one probable death post-vaccination.
I also know/knew two individuals in their late 80s who were unvaxed and experienced a very mild case of COVID back in 2020.
Wife and I have had COVID twice, both times recovered in less than 24 hours thanks to IVM and HXC. We are unvaccinated.
But if you talk to my sister, for example, she apparently knows every person under 30 years old east of the Mississippi who has died from COVID. One of my former editors recalls (fondly, I suspect) "bodies piled up on the sidewalks outside NY City hospitals." Yes the NYC hospitals had so many bodies they could no longer fit them into their morgues, empty rooms (oh I forgot, there were no empty rooms), corridors, rooftops, or storage areas. The bodies were (LITERALLY!!!) falling out of the windows onto York Avenue.
my best friend walked to columbia presbyterian in NYC on march 17, 2020, tested positive for covid and was slapped on a vent that night. her body was taken off the vent 2 weeks later and tossed on a freezer truck to await an unattended burial. she had a fibrotic lung condition and had oxygen tanks at home. i believe she would have lived if she had only stayed home and used her oxygen if she felt she was getting in trouble.
my brother lives in astoria across the street from an urgent care place. there were freezer trucks parked outside to store the bodies.
but none of these people died of covid. they died of bad protocols that defied centuries of common practice with respiratory viruses.
another friend got covid really bad, was on a vent for over 40 days. finally in desperation, his hospital asked the FDA for a compassionate use waiver to try an experimental israeli stem cell preparation. within days, he was weaned off the vent, clapped out of the hospital and sent to a rehab facility where he did very well and was discharged to his wife and children in under a week.
there were television news interviews and newspaper accounts. everyone assumed the FDA would open the research to more critically ill patients with nothing to lose. amazingly, the treatment disappeared without a trace and he is the ONLY person in the USA that it was tried on which seems sinister to me.
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Carolyn, sorry about your best friend. :-( BTW, the whole "freezer trucks" thing was just another if their stunts. The real reason that they had to use the trucks was because they closed down all the funeral homes.
Well, in that case....
I never in my life remember anybody who had a cold in summer in humid Florida where I live now. I used to get colds in dry Nevada in winter...but never go a cold in summer in Florida in winter years and never met anybody with summer colds in Florida till now! Too strange. And they sound bad like rattling voice etc..
Remove in winter years
You know you can actually edit your comments?
A counterexample!
A friend of mine's brother developed ALS after the jab.
So sad!
artificial pharmaceutical "health" causes actual sickness.
i have friends, a married couple, who volunteered for the moderna trial. it was unblinded after 2 months (!) and the wife, who had received the placebo, was then vaccinated. the husband, as soon as he was able, ran out and got himself two pfizer shots and was hankering for a booster. i hope i talked him out of it!
the wife and her unvaccinated childhood friend stayed at out house for a few days over the summer and then went on with their travels. they both got delta- bad. the wife called me for advice and i gave her a list of supplements to take. the unvaccinated friend was also uninsured and lived alone on a hobby farm. i advised her (she fought me on this) to get the "horse paste" from her barn and we worked out a safe dose. she was desperately ill and in wrenching pain so she overcame her resistance and took a first dose. she slept through the night for the first time in 5 days and was better the next morning. now she stockpiles it.
the moderna couple stayed with us again for new years, bringing their son and daughter in law who came from london. they all came down with covid.
i finally got covid last summer from a vaccinated and boosted friend who came over on a friday morning to use my sauna as she was sick but not tested although obviously she had covid (as a footnote, she now has cancer). on monday i woke with a slight fever, body aches and a fierce headache and immediately upped my once a week preventative dose of IVM to a therapeutic level. i tested on tuesday (positive for covid by rapid antigen) and was back to normal on wednesday- a real nothing burger.
my boyfriend started to feel bad on wednesday and tested positive. he never had a fever but did have an awful sore throat which i treated with hourly nebulizing of a 3% saline/H2O2 solution alternating with iodine and colloidal silver. he was better in 3 days.
i have known 2 people to die of the vaccine and my best friend died on april 1, 2020, not of covid but of bad NYC hospital protocols.
since being fired from my job of 40 years for not getting vaccinated, my circle of vaccinated acquaintances is pretty small
My wife works in a elementary school. All staff jabbed with the exception of her and 2 others.
I hear constantly from her (during school season) about teachers having never ending sicknesses, barely back a few days before home sick again. Most mask up when they come back, exacerbating the issue of course.
Meanwhile, her and the couple other non jabbers (all educational assistants, the ones the kids sneeze on at least hourly, and come to for hugs etc) have not missed a single day for illness of any kind.
Even worse, several teachers and staff are experiencing other issues as well, seeming nerve issues, often in feet and lower legs, recurrances of cancer, etc.
I'm also a teacher. I'm seeing the same.
I have a niece who is in primary school - she's been booking loads of days off sick --- I asked her (when the Mega Vax Parents weren't around) if lots of other kids are sick ... yes she said - every day lots are missing from class -- lots.. do you mean more than half... uh no not that many days the teacher says -- we have so many away today that we'll have to delay starting on that new topic till they return....
She is boosted.
Yes, I had students out sick more than usual. Many of them are vaxxed too!
One fit 45 yr old was telling me he was sick for nearly 3 weeks - thought he was coming out of it then BAM - it smashed him so hard for a few days he thought he was gonna die...
He was ok for a few weeks but was again not feeling well when I spoke to him.
One other person I know has been sick for over 2 months straight now...
I could go on and on ....
These are my observations too, from the opposite side of the globe.
Yes you can!
All the workers at my partner's workplace (mechanical engineering, most in the 40s/50s, not particularly healthy anyway) have colds that are going on for weeks. One, in his 60s, seems to have a perma-cold. All on the jabbing band wagon. Partner was stupid enough to get jabbed once and his cold is lingering. UK so height of summer (although little sign of it!) Summer colds have always been a thing, but these do seem to be long lived. Turbo cancer also seems to be a thing I'm hearing of now too (my uncle has just died, partner's cousin recently diagnosed with stage 4 jaw cancer which has spread, niece has suspected thyroid cancer (she's 23, fit and healthy but fully paid up member of cult Covid, local school dad, no health problems, 40s, died in his sleep, 50 year old female acquaintance suffered profuse rectal bleeding now diagnosed with bowel cancer, another local just died of cancer that was treatable until it wasn't) This is all new. It didn't happen before.
In Canada here. I work in an office of about 15 people. I’m the only unjabbed. Everyone got 2 shots in 2021 and some have 1 or more boosters. Since fall of 2021 multiple people get sick every month regardless of the season. From fall to May/June just about everyone is sick with covid/flu/respiratory virus every single month without fail. These are often multi day absences each month! I’ve worked here for 16 years and prior to 2021 (even in 2020) each person would only be sick once or twice during fall/winter and rarely in summer. This is a new occurrence since the jabs. Also the amount of absences for headaches or coworkers taking Advil during the weekday is almost daily (multiple people). My boss got the bivalent booster last November. A week later he was so I’ll he missed an entire week of work! Again never seen this before here. Also multiple coworkers have a constant small cough. I can hear them every few minutes coaching or interrupting their speech with a cough. I’m so worried it could be turbo lung cancer. I should mention I haven’t taken a sick day since 2020 and haven’t been sick. I think I got covid in 2022 spring as I lost my sense of smell and my voice changed but that was it. Also have learned of a few heart issues in coworkers or their family that came suddenly and they were perfectly fine before according to them. A few cancers too in coworkers family. How much is jab and how much is not I don’t know but I’m certain the cknstant respiratory sickness and low key coughs and headaches is all from jab :(
Does this count ? Woman drove through our front garden at @2PM with an SUV - took out a fence , tree, and blocked the driveway for the entrance into our neighbour's home . Partner in the car , reported she felt as if she was having a heart attack ( she was in shock and could not speak English) and mentioned she had had a vaccine that AM from her doctor . I was on that ASAP - and asked what one - he didn't know . I suggested he call the Dr to mention she had an accident that could have resulted in a number of deaths since the time frame was the same day . mentioned to the police man - she had a "vaccine" that morning . he said she was probably just anxious and vaccines don't do that ! Needless to say , he didn't know he was dealing with a honey badger.
#2 Few days later walking to a little green grocery store , there is a beautiful young woman , laying on her side, with all the police, ambulances, and firemen milling around ; her face was in a contorted paralysis - could assume a stroke of sorts ( was a nurse for 20 years ) but don't know for sure . First time in 40 years seeing this on the streets where I live .
#3 - Is there an epidemic of celiac disease in kids and families? Hearing whole families being tested and diagnosed with this one - but they say it is/was in the family anyway. I usually ask - what have you been doing differently over the past few years ? The deer in the headlight look is another epidemic as far as I can tell.
Terrifying.
These past few years have been for sure and not based on the virus, in my opinion.
Since everyone around me at is least double vaxxed, I have plenty of people to choose from. Out of say 25 or so people who I know in general, at least 5 seem to be doing badly, are chronically ill. 2 have gained alot of weight, to the point of it causing their bodies difficulty getting around, and are using canes. 2 are elders who seem to be confused and not remembering conversations to an extreme level of forgetfulness, very bad short term memory. The 5th is a person who has chronic fatigue and is being treated by an acupuncturist for 'long Covid'. Thats 20% of people in a small group of 25. In general I see more canes and walkers in the general populace and more stories of people who were working into their later 60's, but have had bodily failings of late that put them out of the work force.
Oh heck yeah, all the jabbed are continually sick with something or other. I haven't noted it as much lately, but it was extremely noticeable last winter.
A friend recently told me that before the "pandemic", they didn't get sick as often. He and his wife, both jabbed, and three small kids (don't know jab status) are constantly ill with either respiratory or stomach bugs. I didn't have the heart to tell him why.
Found a collapsedcman in 70s, furthermore a repairshop guy super sick with respiratory illness in middle of summer...and I don't meet many people. Another one had shingles etc
I was just talking to a co-worker last week and she told me that she has had a cold for at least six weeks straight. I told her to start taking Vitamin D and I even sent her some medical papers noting Vitamin D’s effectiveness against respiratory viruses. I saw her yesterday and she appeared okay, but I did not ask about the persistent cold. I do not know her vaccination status for sure, but we had a vaccine requirement in the past and I live in a heavily blue Covidian stronghold. I think it is highly like that she has had at least the primary series and one booster, but possibly multiple boosters.
I work in a fully vaxed group home. The house manager was fully vaxed as of 12/2021. She got infected 1/14/2022 and was off 5 days, minor symptoms cold like. She infected 2 residents who had to get monoclonal antibody. She has since been infected 2 other times since and both times, the symptoms were worse. The last time was 2/2023, she was off12 days and hospitalized. Myself and other workers remain unvaxed and just fine although I have developed weird symptoms a few times that lasted 5-6 days and then gone. I kept windows open in 2022 due to the shedding and it is real. No problems this past winter but I'm watching one residents deteriorate slowly physically and mentally. Before the shot, he was fine and jolly but this past Spring he was diagnosed with AFib along with another resident. My BFF who got her 2 shots in 2/2021 also this past Spring has been diagnosed with AFib. Her vaxed daughter developed a carcinoma on the bottom of her foot and it was malignant. She had it removed last winter and it's growing back. I've lost many friends since 10/2021, people age 30-80 years old, all vaxed and died from clots, heart attacks, aggressive cancers post vaccination
I know upwards of a dozen people with serious vaccine injuries... mainly heart issues - one stroke - one neuro disease (terminal - now in a wheelchair) -- two blood clots ...
These occurred soon after their jabs... I have not heard of anyone experiencing a vax injury in quite a few months now.
What I am hearing from a sports league I am involved in is endless widespread respiratory illnesses... often severe enough to result in multiple days off work with bed rest... the number of times I have heard 'I have never been so ill'....
I also have a mate who runs a business with 40+ staff... constant sickness -- and he mentioned the other day 'it's always the vaxxed ones'
Funny you should ask; I know of several people who seem to be sick all the time, (all jabbed), and I don't know a lot of people!
Just off the phone with a tradie ... he's off today 'head cold' but says he can come by to quote on some work... it's just a cold he thinks not covid --- do I mind? Nah - I don't care about any of that... just let me know what time works for you -- I'm here all day spewing doom all over SS so will be available....
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My wife and I did not get the shots and we have not had a respiratory infection since she had COVID in late 2019 through early 2020 (likely, no test back then). Nearly all of our friends and family got the shots and most have had COVID or another respiratory infection more times than they can remember. In 2021 and 2022, many of the ones who got the cure, developed COVID 3 or 4 times, even 5 times. In my opinion, they got ill with COVID after each shot.