If (for the sake of discussion), no unique SARS-CoV, transmissible organism or replication-competent particle or 'virus') can be isolated, and
if (again, for the sake of discussion), there exist no 'antibodies' that uniquely attach to and neutralize SARS-CoV particles,
but rather the measurable T-cell response in mammalian blood is an indicator of a generalized, non-specific response that a healthy organism can mount to any introduced foreign, non-self, biological particle (such as a protein produced by a non-self organism)
Would you say this 2023 Japanese study supports the conclusion that one of the things the jabs (in their various formulations) do is shut down the general capacity of recipients to mount any effective T-cell response to any challenge by any foreign, non-self biological particle?
As far as the study goes, they measured specific T-cell reactivity to SARS-CoV-2 peptide (https://tspot.asia/products/t-spot-covid/). Whether the same T-cells would react to other pathogens is a good question. As the cross-reactivity has been observed between SARS-CoV-1 and SARS-CoV-2, they likely would react to a spectrum of similar pathogens. But if one does not believe in the existence of viruses in general, one may choose not to believe in T-cells as well.
I think it's possible to understand the term "virus" as corresponding in reality to identifiable proteins produced by non-self biological organisms but not corresponding in reality to a replication-competent, transmissible, infectious particle, and to simultaneously understand the term "T-cell" as corresponding to measurable, identifiable cell types involved in a living organism's management (rejection, neutralization, etc.) of an invading, non-self protein.
Any living organism that can reproduce, either by sex or by asexual reproduction.
One way to label or categorize them is by the taxonomical phyla, i.e., bacteria, fungi, protozoa, plants, mammalian non-human, human non-self, etc.
Keeping in mind that those are categorizations overlaid on the infinite complexity of life, by human observers (Linnaeus etc) trying to build mental models, and thus don't fully describe the phenomena of living creatures and their interactions with each other.
Among the things the non-self biological organisms produce are exosomes. One could argue that the notion of "exosomes" is interchangeable with the notion of "viruses": look same, act same, replicate same. You can ask the Mid-Western Doctor for his opinion on that - he's more likely to respond to a question from you than from me.
I think it is possible to not believe in, or not be sure of (my case) the existence of viruses, while being perfectly comfortable and certain in the existence of T-cells.
I find this commercial T cell test to be questionable for a couple of reasons. The antigen used to provoke the T-cell response, per the company, is proprietary. The public is not allowed to examine it. So how do we know what it is measuring, at all? Secondly, the benchmark standard to which they are measuring their results is the PCR test, of all things! Which we absolutely know is a propaganda device rather than a bonafide test, in which increased cycles were deliberately used to exaggerate the number of positive tests and terrorize the public into getting jabbed. Although it is possible, even probable, that cellular immunity is dampened to all kinds of antigens, by the vaxx, especially after increased boosters, it is not certain that it is specifically dampened to a virus called SARS-Cov2.
Anyone who does not believe in the existence of viruses.. (or something - call it Z... that causes disease to be spread)... is invited to take The Fast Eddy Challenge:
If that does change your mind then I invite you to take the Fast Eddy Challenge.
I went onto the streets last night in search of a herpes infected male prostitute and I found the guy in the photo.
He confirmed that he has regular flareups of genital herpes. I gave him my mobile number and asked him to call me the next time he is in full bloom and I will hook him up with you. I showed him your photo and told him that I would pay him USD500 to have a session of unprotected sex with you.
He was very excited by this prospect and said he’d participate in the Fast Eddy Challenge for free.
This will put your theory to the test Sam. If you are able to complete the session without contracting herpes, then you will win me over and I will come on board with the ‘viruses do not exist’ theory. He probably has HIV as well but given that is also a fake virus, that should be of no concern.
I should have clarified my statement to be "not be sure of the existence of certain viruses." Forgetting about more complex questions such as HIV and that whole controversy as to whether or not AIDS is caused by HIV, it does seem to me that a number of childhood diseases, mumps, for example, follow recognizable patterns of illness and that the illness can be explained by a virus. Whether that applies to Covid is a different animal, imo. There has been so much fraud and deception with this illness that I am hesitant to believe almost any so-called studies that purport to prove the existence of that virus. The epidemiology of the so-called pandemic does not support the infectious viral theory, either. I don't believe we yet know what caused some people to become ill in early 2020, but we do know that the vaxx injected from December 2020 caused a lot of illness and death.
The Japan study measured the specificity of the T-cell response to SARS-CoV-2 and concluded: "The absence of a relationship between positive controls and T-Spot reactivity suggests that these immune alterations were specific to SARS-CoV-2." The way the wide cross-reactivity is ruled out is expounded here, the Japan study assumes everyone knows it by heart , lol: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8482551/
Tell this to all the ppl dropping dead or who have dropped dead or hey how about the vaccine injured! I bet they cannot wait to run out & get a freaking 5th dose. My entire family of 5 had their “Covid” & guess what? We got better all by ourselves without meds or without the bullshit jabs. Please stop pushing these jabs because ppl are dying & to give them to children is complete bullshit & we both know it.
There's no evidence of a virus, so this *may* suggest the jab is hindering the body's ability to heal from whatever causes that particular set of symptoms.
That’s why they had their blood taken regularly. And what about the mice?
The point is, the boosters (6th, 7th, 8th?) are now being pushed onto the vulnerable groups, including the elderly and the ones with co-morbidities, as a way to "protect" them. When, in reality, they are being made into permanently infected SARS-CoV-2 variant-producing factories. Not good for them, not good for the surrounding.
Interested in your opinion on this question:
If (for the sake of discussion), no unique SARS-CoV, transmissible organism or replication-competent particle or 'virus') can be isolated, and
if (again, for the sake of discussion), there exist no 'antibodies' that uniquely attach to and neutralize SARS-CoV particles,
but rather the measurable T-cell response in mammalian blood is an indicator of a generalized, non-specific response that a healthy organism can mount to any introduced foreign, non-self, biological particle (such as a protein produced by a non-self organism)
Would you say this 2023 Japanese study supports the conclusion that one of the things the jabs (in their various formulations) do is shut down the general capacity of recipients to mount any effective T-cell response to any challenge by any foreign, non-self biological particle?
As far as the study goes, they measured specific T-cell reactivity to SARS-CoV-2 peptide (https://tspot.asia/products/t-spot-covid/). Whether the same T-cells would react to other pathogens is a good question. As the cross-reactivity has been observed between SARS-CoV-1 and SARS-CoV-2, they likely would react to a spectrum of similar pathogens. But if one does not believe in the existence of viruses in general, one may choose not to believe in T-cells as well.
Okay, thank you.
I think it's possible to understand the term "virus" as corresponding in reality to identifiable proteins produced by non-self biological organisms but not corresponding in reality to a replication-competent, transmissible, infectious particle, and to simultaneously understand the term "T-cell" as corresponding to measurable, identifiable cell types involved in a living organism's management (rejection, neutralization, etc.) of an invading, non-self protein.
An how does one label or categorize the non-self biological organisms?
Any living organism that can reproduce, either by sex or by asexual reproduction.
One way to label or categorize them is by the taxonomical phyla, i.e., bacteria, fungi, protozoa, plants, mammalian non-human, human non-self, etc.
Keeping in mind that those are categorizations overlaid on the infinite complexity of life, by human observers (Linnaeus etc) trying to build mental models, and thus don't fully describe the phenomena of living creatures and their interactions with each other.
Among the things the non-self biological organisms produce are exosomes. One could argue that the notion of "exosomes" is interchangeable with the notion of "viruses": look same, act same, replicate same. You can ask the Mid-Western Doctor for his opinion on that - he's more likely to respond to a question from you than from me.
We can call them viruses?
Of let's just make up a name... billybuttfucks...BBFs
I think it is possible to not believe in, or not be sure of (my case) the existence of viruses, while being perfectly comfortable and certain in the existence of T-cells.
I find this commercial T cell test to be questionable for a couple of reasons. The antigen used to provoke the T-cell response, per the company, is proprietary. The public is not allowed to examine it. So how do we know what it is measuring, at all? Secondly, the benchmark standard to which they are measuring their results is the PCR test, of all things! Which we absolutely know is a propaganda device rather than a bonafide test, in which increased cycles were deliberately used to exaggerate the number of positive tests and terrorize the public into getting jabbed. Although it is possible, even probable, that cellular immunity is dampened to all kinds of antigens, by the vaxx, especially after increased boosters, it is not certain that it is specifically dampened to a virus called SARS-Cov2.
Looking at viruses: https://youtu.be/421fmflQX0E?si=chYm-bvfeb__a7u4
Anyone who does not believe in the existence of viruses.. (or something - call it Z... that causes disease to be spread)... is invited to take The Fast Eddy Challenge:
If that does change your mind then I invite you to take the Fast Eddy Challenge.
I went onto the streets last night in search of a herpes infected male prostitute and I found the guy in the photo.
He confirmed that he has regular flareups of genital herpes. I gave him my mobile number and asked him to call me the next time he is in full bloom and I will hook him up with you. I showed him your photo and told him that I would pay him USD500 to have a session of unprotected sex with you.
He was very excited by this prospect and said he’d participate in the Fast Eddy Challenge for free.
This will put your theory to the test Sam. If you are able to complete the session without contracting herpes, then you will win me over and I will come on board with the ‘viruses do not exist’ theory. He probably has HIV as well but given that is also a fake virus, that should be of no concern.
Are you in?
https://fasteddynz.substack.com/p/dr-sam-bailey-viruses-do-not-exist
Syphilis, on the other hand, is caused by a bacterium that CAN be seen under an optical microscope: https://www.westlab.com/blog/bacterial-classification-types-of-bacteria-under-a-microscope
What a relief!
We'll test Sam's rent boy for all bacterial infections making sure he only has HIV and herpes ... before he unleashes on her...
To be fair
That is turning into a real science project, Eddy!
I should have clarified my statement to be "not be sure of the existence of certain viruses." Forgetting about more complex questions such as HIV and that whole controversy as to whether or not AIDS is caused by HIV, it does seem to me that a number of childhood diseases, mumps, for example, follow recognizable patterns of illness and that the illness can be explained by a virus. Whether that applies to Covid is a different animal, imo. There has been so much fraud and deception with this illness that I am hesitant to believe almost any so-called studies that purport to prove the existence of that virus. The epidemiology of the so-called pandemic does not support the infectious viral theory, either. I don't believe we yet know what caused some people to become ill in early 2020, but we do know that the vaxx injected from December 2020 caused a lot of illness and death.
This is how you can look at a virus: https://youtu.be/421fmflQX0E?si=chYm-bvfeb__a7u4
Look at how they “create” the “images” of “viruses” and then apeak of rhem as if they are real and not fabricated.
The moon is just a light spot in the sky?
The Japan study measured the specificity of the T-cell response to SARS-CoV-2 and concluded: "The absence of a relationship between positive controls and T-Spot reactivity suggests that these immune alterations were specific to SARS-CoV-2." The way the wide cross-reactivity is ruled out is expounded here, the Japan study assumes everyone knows it by heart , lol: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8482551/
Tell this to all the ppl dropping dead or who have dropped dead or hey how about the vaccine injured! I bet they cannot wait to run out & get a freaking 5th dose. My entire family of 5 had their “Covid” & guess what? We got better all by ourselves without meds or without the bullshit jabs. Please stop pushing these jabs because ppl are dying & to give them to children is complete bullshit & we both know it.
LOL! Did you read past the headline, Tina?
There is No Cure for Stupidity
Fool them once fool them a thousand times
https://fasteddynz.substack.com/p/there-is-no-cure-for-stupidity
Now if there were not so stupid... they'd stop - no?
But nope... cnnbbc tells them to keep playing Vaccine Roulette ... so they play... and they don't even get the free donut anymore!!!
There's no evidence of a virus, so this *may* suggest the jab is hindering the body's ability to heal from whatever causes that particular set of symptoms.
the people in this study are on dialysis not a favorable comparison to regular folk
That’s why they had their blood taken regularly. And what about the mice?
The point is, the boosters (6th, 7th, 8th?) are now being pushed onto the vulnerable groups, including the elderly and the ones with co-morbidities, as a way to "protect" them. When, in reality, they are being made into permanently infected SARS-CoV-2 variant-producing factories. Not good for them, not good for the surrounding.
Bioweapon
Reinforcing information.